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i wasn't the one who was there because

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at the time that was going through my

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head you know in it and if i would have

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been there i would have liked it that

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and i want to see an alien dad and he

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tells me well son they're not

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aliens and i was like yeah they are and

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he said no they're not

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they told me that they're the guardians

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and they work for creation

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and um the lady told me that their

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angels

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they're magical they're not spinning in

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a ship up there spying on you and

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listening to what you're saying and then

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messing with you

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they play with your destiny they

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interact with you and this is what he's

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saying to me right he's like they play

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with your destiny they interact with you

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in a way that's magical

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and just to mess with you and to get you

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to see them and believe but have that

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little doubt in your mind

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so that you're always questioning and

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you get to choose them

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in the end and i'm like dad i mean that

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kind of out there don't you think and

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then i hear a moo

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earlier our yard is boxed in by trees

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community and i think the nearest cow

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so i heard the cow and i kind of stopped

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talking and i'm like okay dad come on

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the griffins have a cow don't they he

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said no they don't

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okay whatever then i hear another cow i

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four and then i hear five and they're

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one start while the other one was

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number they were they were not on the

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um time signature i guess you could say

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and when i heard them i was so freaked

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out i was like speechless

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deny i still had that

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that these beings would appear to me in

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they're serious right he's like no no

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they they mess with you

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so that that night changed me even

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though the first night and

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it dug itself deep into my mind and i

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did you uh did you take a walk on the

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property and look for cows

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have you been driving around the

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community the next day knocking on doors

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have you ever played diablo three

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i've beat it twice unfortunately so

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you've done the cow level right

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oh man i haven't played that game in

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almost 10 years okay i remember the

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little rainbow level

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yeah yeah yeah yeah okay there's a cow

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as well with lots of mooing okay but

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i digress um so yeah so you're gonna go

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look for cat you don't see cows

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but you're hearing mooing in the

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darkness i'm hearing them

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wow um now

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this this is what i want to discuss

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um but this is now the introduction of

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the religious side of things

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you're in the bible belt you you've been

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reading the bible your whole life

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now your dad lays this on you now this

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is a whole other situation you thought

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it was e.t

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right this is uh i want to believe and

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you got the

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the the poster the fox mulder action

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going on in your life

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right this is what's happening and and

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lays this on you uh what went through

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your mind it was hard for me

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profound moment meant for me but it was

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very easy for me to accept what he was

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dad said i believe they're angelic

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there's angels there's a god there's

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whatever but then there's also these

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aliens and they have some sort of

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they are the angels son you're not

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getting it so it was very easy for me to

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these beings would come down and move at

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they get the last laugh it was it was

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kind of surprising to me well you know

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the bible

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you can go and start doing the

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assessments you got the lady you got the

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well i mean don't forget to that the

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lady appeared as a bull yes yes yes oh

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i want to talk about that when we come

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jimmy church more with ryan

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religious aspect of this that i've

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always

285
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uh found very interesting and

286
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uh i don't want to make a huge general

287
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statement here but when we

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go back throughout history including the

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bible

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and accounts of angelic beings and the

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teachers and the knowledge coming from

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the stars

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and the things that have been uh

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documented

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would strongly suggest that there has

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always been this connection

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whether it's et being confused as angels

298
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or gods

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or or it is indeed angels

300
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and mistaken for e.t this is something

301
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that has gone on for millennia hasn't it

302
00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:45,200
that's correct i mean let's just look at

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the bible

304
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and there's many other texts around

305
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history that have similar encounters and

306
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whatnot but even in the bible

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what does it say about the garden of

308
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eden when they're kicked out or whatever

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that a cherub spinning with a flaming

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sword by day and night would protect the

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garden of edenwood

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forever or the story of ezekiel where he

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saw

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a wheel burning or spinning within a

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wheel

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and it's described in his primitive

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language as being metallic

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and on fire and when it landed these

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four angels stepped out and gave him a

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prophetic message so all throughout the

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bible you find these stories

322
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or just like moses when they're going to

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the desert and for 40 years they wander

324
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no food whatever and it says that god

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flies

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on a pillar of a cloud by day before

327
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them and a pillar of fire by night and

328
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provides them shelter from their enemies

329
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and manna

330
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i'm not trying to like quote people the

331
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bible or anything i'm just to answer

332
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your question there's

333
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always been these descriptions in the

334
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past that have these funky descriptions

335
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of crafts these weird beings whatever so

336
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i think it's 100 related to all these

337
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ancient stories

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yeah if you take the bible and you

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replace

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uh angels with e.t or aliens or little

341
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green men

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and and flying saucers suddenly you've

343
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got a whole nother book

344
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right and then you have an even weirder

345
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book

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if you take the word e.t and then you

347
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replace it with angel people can't

348
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really

349
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for people to consider but i think that

350
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they're very

351
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interchangeable i mean look at the dogon

352
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tribe that's what 5000 years old and

353
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they're these

354
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these elders who are interfacing with

355
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these beings that they say come from

356
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serious and they're made of light i mean

357
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the bible's not the only one

358
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the uh uh the lady tell us about her

359
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okay uh what do you want to know i want

360
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to know everything

361
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see and and and your dad

362
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um has his

363
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interaction right and and his perception

364
00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:48,639
but what is yours

365
00:13:55,189 --> 00:13:52,000
my perception is that my

366
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father is experiencing these things

367
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and then it is being put in his head in

368
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a way

369
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that is very specific for him to

370
00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:04,720
understand and believe i think it's 100

371
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percent guided by these beings

372
00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:10,480
and i have not seen the lady for myself

373
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but i know in and out what

374
00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:15,120
dad has experienced with her i have some

375
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transcriptions

376
00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:18,480
of this event that have been written

377
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down and i've read it over and over and

378
00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:20,800
over and from what

379
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it says i 100 believe everything my dad

380
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says she is what she is

381
00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:28,160
based on my own research based on what

382
00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:29,279
he's told me based on number of things

383
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but the lady

384
00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:35,600
is what dad likes to call the mother

385
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and that's kind of like shocking for

386
00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:38,639
some people they're like what are you

387
00:14:40,790 --> 00:14:39,920
talking about that's some pagan stuff or

388
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whatever

389
00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:42,320
but it's really not i don't i don't

390
00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:43,920
think that we should put labels if you

391
00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:45,120
know as christian this pagan that

392
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whatever

393
00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:48,800
it's just truth you know and in the

394
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bible

395
00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,760
there's the father the son and the holy

396
00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:53,760
ghost well the lady says

397
00:14:57,189 --> 00:14:55,360
actually you take the holy ghost or the

398
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:57,199
holy spirit they call it the comforter

399
00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:58,959
well it's really the mother that's it's

400
00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:00,720
this is one in the same

401
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,560
that she's a part of that trinity of

402
00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:04,720
creation and divinity

403
00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:07,600
and that there uh she has been

404
00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:08,560
suppressed

405
00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:11,120
for thousands of years by design and

406
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that this next aquarian age

407
00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:16,399
is going to be about her manifestation

408
00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:17,839
her energy whatever

409
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:19,680
rising back into power to set everything

410
00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:21,839
in balance and that's that's in a very

411
00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:23,760
basic nutshell what she told my father

412
00:15:28,629 --> 00:15:25,600
now there are going to be con

413
00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:28,639
comparisons to fatima oh yes

414
00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:32,639
and when you go and look at the fatima

415
00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:33,920
case

416
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:36,959
and what those three children were told

417
00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:38,480
and what they went through and what the

418
00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:40,959
crowds witnessed in the sky

419
00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:44,800
uh were you able to connect the dots

420
00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:47,920
with your family's own experiences

421
00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:50,000
well absolutely but you know we weren't

422
00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:53,360
really raised catholic we were raised um

423
00:15:56,629 --> 00:15:55,360
kind of like a old-timey christian way

424
00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:56,639
so we never heard we

425
00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:57,839
we're not even supposed to talk about

426
00:16:01,749 --> 00:16:00,000
catholic from that standpoint you know

427
00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,759
like you're not supposed to even think

428
00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:03,199
about it it's that's a different

429
00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:04,160
religion to

430
00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:05,920
to the way that i was raised so i didn't

431
00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:07,920
know anything about the the fatima

432
00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:10,720
experience so when we met dr basulka she

433
00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:12,320
brought it to our attention and she

434
00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:13,360
showed us some documents

435
00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:15,920
about it and it clicked it made perfect

436
00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:17,360
sense and then apparently it's common

437
00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:18,720
knowledge all around the world for

438
00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:21,360
devout catholics the miracle of the sun

439
00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:22,000
i i

440
00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:23,279
very easily was able to make that

441
00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:25,199
connection right after i'm hearing about

442
00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:26,480
it from dr pisoka

443
00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:28,880
now uh that's a great segue i'm glad

444
00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:29,920
that you uh

445
00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:31,759
you did that you're a professional well

446
00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:33,040
done

447
00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:35,279
you guys are now starting to have

448
00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:36,399
researchers stop

449
00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:39,920
by and and and the government too as

450
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:40,399
well

451
00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:43,600
uh when that started who was there first

452
00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:46,720
who arrived first

453
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:49,360
okay so the first people that arrived

454
00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:52,240
were obviously the mufon investigators

455
00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:53,759
some of them we did later find out

456
00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:56,560
happen to have positions in various

457
00:17:01,430 --> 00:16:59,519
um intel communities but pushing that

458
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,440
aside so that's 2008 to the documentary

459
00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:03,120
then we go forward from there

460
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:05,679
the first one to arrive was dr harold

461
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:06,640
palvinmeier

462
00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:10,000
um he was from nasa again i was about 14

463
00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:12,400
or 15 when he knocked on our door

464
00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:13,839
it was in the summer so i was home from

465
00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:15,199
school that day and probably just like

466
00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:16,480
laying around playing video games or

467
00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:18,160
something like kids do

468
00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:19,360
and he knocks on the door and i go

469
00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:21,280
answer and he's standing there and i was

470
00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:22,480
very intimidated

471
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:24,959
because he had a a visible badge on his

472
00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:26,799
shirt that said nasa and i knew

473
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:29,520
you know who he was right away and he

474
00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:32,000
said hey is chris bledsoe here

475
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:35,679
and i said uh no do you want me to call

476
00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,640
him

477
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,240
he said yeah i just drove 12 hours from

478
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:40,080
cape canaveral florida to come knock on

479
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:42,880
your door and see if he was home

480
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:45,360
so i'm like mom someone from nasa's here

481
00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:46,640
she's like call your dad

482
00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:48,160
so i called dad and he basically asked

483
00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:49,840
me a mom to entertain him and next thing

484
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:51,520
you know he was in our family

485
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:53,919
and uh would visit us dozens of times a

486
00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:54,799
year up until

487
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,720
literally the day he died so that was

488
00:18:02,470 --> 00:17:58,240
the first

489
00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:02,480
the second if i'm remembering

490
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:06,000
correctly here would have been

491
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:09,360
um the infamous uh tyler durden

492
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,640
um cool guy yeah i mean

493
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,799
he was i haven't spoken to him in many

494
00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:18,400
years but you know it was really cool

495
00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:19,919
meeting him that night

496
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:22,480
um he told us some pretty cool things

497
00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:23,760
and

498
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:25,280
i personally haven't interacted with him

499
00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,880
that much dad kind of hung out with him

500
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,240
for a few years

501
00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:30,160
but um we haven't really talked to him

502
00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:32,320
in uh recent times

503
00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:34,240
but yeah i mean he was a cool guy he's

504
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,440
he was very mysterious

505
00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:37,840
yeah very mysterious guy he still is

506
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:38,960
actually

507
00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:42,240
um and did he

508
00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:44,320
did you know his background what did he

509
00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:53,110
um so when he showed up he had i

510
00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:54,880
i guess he was like renting an suv thing

511
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:56,400
in the back of that suv he had like this

512
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:57,120
little

513
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:59,039
uh kind of like a not a briefcase but

514
00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:00,320
kind of like a travel bag you could slip

515
00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:01,520
a laptop in or something

516
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:03,360
and he had several clearances and he

517
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:04,799
showed them to us down the line he was

518
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:05,200
like

519
00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:07,200
this is who i am there's some things i

520
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:08,480
want to discuss with your family and i'm

521
00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:09,120
not

522
00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:13,280
go into detail the things he discussed

523
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,080
because um he said blood so eyes only

524
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:18,000
and i know that's a bummer to hear but

525
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:20,160
well it's my job to get it out of you so

526
00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:21,440
let me see how

527
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:24,559
um take your best shot yeah i'm gonna do

528
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:25,039
my best

529
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:32,470
yeah um cia

530
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:36,320
nsa yes yes i didn't see an nsa

531
00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:41,520
um nasa nro air force intelligence

532
00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:44,559
cia and area 51.

533
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:48,080
wow and were you buying what he was

534
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:49,520
selling

535
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:56,230
it's different it's not like somebody

536
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:57,679
who thinks they know it's it's an energy

537
00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:58,960
of someone who knows

538
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,880
it's very bizarre but you know if you've

539
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:02,559
met him you know

540
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:05,760
was he uh uh was he interested in the

541
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:06,559
religious

542
00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:09,280
side of things did did he bring that up

543
00:20:14,149 --> 00:20:11,039
that's the reason he came

544
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:14,159
um he told my father that he basically

545
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:15,280
was

546
00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:18,080
um and i do believe that dr pisoka may

547
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:19,360
have mentioned her in this book i've

548
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,000
recently read

549
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:22,480
this somewhere which would imply he's

550
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:23,679
you know we're not the only ones he told

551
00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:24,000
this

552
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,200
but um he told my father that

553
00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:30,480
he basically was instructed to learn

554
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,240
more about the

555
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:34,640
religious and spiritual side of the

556
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:36,080
phenomenon so that he could better

557
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:37,600
understand what we're dealing with so

558
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:37,919
that's

559
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,760
because dad talked about a lady and it

560
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:43,919
was like boom he was at her house within

561
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:47,200
uh less than a year did he uh did he

562
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:53,430
uh i gotta think about the best way to

563
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:56,320
say this one here

564
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,240
he did mention ufos

565
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,480
he did not show me any photos of any

566
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:04,960
ufos or ets

567
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:09,039
okay but he did bring up ufo research

568
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:15,510
yes whatever it says in american cosmic

569
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:16,480
i would wager

570
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:19,919
everything i got that um it's

571
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:23,360
it's what it says now uh

572
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,919
one last question about tyler um he's

573
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:27,200
he's an enigma

574
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:30,400
right uh for sure um

575
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:38,230
um i never felt intimidated by him

576
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:43,679
then that day specifically

577
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,559
but uh let's let's just say

578
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,720
you know i got to think of a way to say

579
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:52,799
this here

580
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:55,360
yeah it was pretty intimidating yeah

581
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,320
yeah

582
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,320
i i'm just gonna be honest about it he

583
00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:01,200
wasn't that day but

584
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,559
i don't know i mean there's just a lot

585
00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:04,799
that i can't say here

586
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:08,799
and and why do you think it

587
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:12,480
uh things turned in that direction

588
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,520
was it because he wasn't getting the

589
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:17,120
information out of the family that he

590
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:18,720
was looking for

591
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:22,720
was he did his demeanor change over time

592
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:26,080
did it did it get aggressive no it did

593
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:27,520
not get aggressive

594
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:35,029
you know he his his i think his attitude

595
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:37,039
not about us but toward us changed over

596
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:38,559
time

597
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:41,600
dad's been in touch with him

598
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,960
but pretty much dad

599
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:47,280
um hooked him up with dr pasulka and it

600
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,640
was like they went and did their thing

601
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,720
and it was like you know see you later

602
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:52,559
kind of deal i i don't know the last

603
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,159
time they've been in touch but it

604
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,080
he changed over time to where he's just

605
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,840
talking to us less

606
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:59,760
and you know learning some things about

607
00:23:01,430 --> 00:23:01,039
him that may or may not have been true

608
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:01,440
from

609
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,880
other uh associates

610
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,799
and other agencies just kind of

611
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:08,080
frightened us a little bit

612
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:11,039
he never threatened us or was aggressive

613
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:12,400
i got you i got you

614
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:16,000
um now after tyler durden

615
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:24,070
do you mean did we meet her before or

616
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:25,520
after we met yeah

617
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:28,720
you said tyler was number two and uh oh

618
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,480
okay yeah yeah so um yes she

619
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,400
now if i i'm really trying to remember

620
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:36,159
correctly here i want to say that my dad

621
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:36,799
was first

622
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:39,919
introduced to tyler or met him

623
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:42,159
kind of like over the phone or email or

624
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,440
something like that

625
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:46,240
and i really want to say it was 2011 but

626
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:47,600
i know for a fact that we

627
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,360
met dr pasulka in 2012

628
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:54,320
and i also remember you know 100 for a

629
00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:55,200
fact that

630
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,960
tyler didn't come to our home until

631
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:59,440
2013.

632
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,799
so there's a technicality there i just

633
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:02,080
can't remember which one he spoke to

634
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:03,360
first but the order was

635
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:06,880
um actually diana was coming around

636
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,679
first

637
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,279
i just i was specifically talking about

638
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,960
intelligence people but you know there

639
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:12,960
were a lot of researchers that came too

640
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,240
right right right wow um

641
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,960
kind of cool though for for you as a

642
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:19,919
young man

643
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:23,200
to be around

644
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:26,240
uh spooks and professors and people from

645
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:27,679
nasa

646
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,279
uh all coming by to to get information

647
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:33,520
that there's a pretty cool element to

648
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:35,039
that there ha

649
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:38,400
it had been pretty interesting for you

650
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,000
yeah i mean it was it was really cool it

651
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:41,760
was like something i saw in the movies

652
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:42,720
as a kid

653
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,400
and as we get older and we become adults

654
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,039
um sometimes it's still cool but

655
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,960
sometimes it's really frightening

656
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:53,360
well you never know who's gonna uh step

657
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,120
up now i know i haven't looked at

658
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:57,520
twitter in in about an hour but i'm sure

659
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:57,919
that

660
00:25:01,909 --> 00:25:00,720
somewhere buried in twitter is this

661
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:01,919
question

662
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,840
men in black any suvs any snooping

663
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:07,200
around the property

664
00:25:15,070 --> 00:25:10,240
any monitoring did you start to notice

665
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:15,080
strange things that's a very

666
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,120
multifaceted uh question

667
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,679
we have never seen someone show up on

668
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,520
our property in a black suit with a tie

669
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,840
with black sunglasses so if you think

670
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,360
that image in your head of men in black

671
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:29,440
fine that's fine i didn't see that

672
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:33,440
but yes we have been um

673
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:35,600
told flat out that we were bugged and

674
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,799
that we will be for the rest of our

675
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,640
lives we've been told

676
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:40,480
at various times that there are people

677
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:43,120
trying to pop us full of disinformation

678
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,919
i know that one for a fact that's why i

679
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:47,200
you know i don't i don't buy everything

680
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:48,480
that someone in the intelligence

681
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,760
community tells me

682
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,360
um because i have to figure out who they

683
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:53,840
are and what their motivations are

684
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,440
my dad was breaking the yard one day

685
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,000
and he looks up and there was a small

686
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,679
military drone hovering right over his

687
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:02,799
property

688
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:05,679
you know things like that and you know

689
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:07,120
he was in

690
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,880
i guess in the hollywood area and there

691
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:10,400
was this one time he was followed around

692
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,360
by a white van

693
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:13,360
and everywhere he went and he came out

694
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,279
of a restaurant and um

695
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:17,120
it was like a 40-foot homeland security

696
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:18,480
rv with men standing there

697
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:21,039
just kind of acknowledging that he was

698
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:21,520
there

699
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,039
weird weird things like that um

700
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:27,279
it's not always cool you know sometimes

701
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:30,960
i'm just like dang i want a normal life

702
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:34,400
and uh okay so we got tyler we've got

703
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:38,559
uh uh of course diana pasulka um

704
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:42,400
uh the uh executive from nasa

705
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:45,840
um who's who started to stop by

706
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:49,279
next okay

707
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,440
um let's see so tyler came around

708
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,320
2013. around 2015 we really started

709
00:27:03,190 --> 00:26:58,559
hanging out with um

710
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,200
like jim semivan dr john alexander

711
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:05,200
and those guys came to our house a few

712
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,960
times here and there around 2015

713
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:09,120
2016 and that was that's been a great

714
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:10,720
friendship that has never ceased

715
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:13,760
um dad has always been in communication

716
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:15,279
with those two individuals very nice

717
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,799
people

718
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:18,320
jim semivan and i share the same

719
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,760
birthday and every year we talk on our

720
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,279
birthday and just catch up

721
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:23,520
this wonderful wife regularly talks with

722
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,799
me on facebook i mean the

723
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,960
this crowd we have always been in

724
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:28,720
contact with since we met them

725
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:31,440
we've spent holidays with them birthdays

726
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:32,480
you name it

727
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:35,840
and very nice people now i'm sure jim is

728
00:27:38,260 --> 00:27:37,440
listening right now

729
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:38,270
um

730
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:44,470
did jim tell you out of the gate uh what

731
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:45,840
he did for a job

732
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,960
in his career no he didn't that's

733
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,039
actually a really funny story so we have

734
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:53,600
this other friend named larry

735
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:57,200
he's a he's a very i guess i could say a

736
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:57,760
very

737
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,559
open individual he just loves connecting

738
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,320
people he likes to connect this guy to

739
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:04,240
this guy this guy to that guy

740
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:07,840
so he he connected us with jim simuvan

741
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,279
now we were in new york city at a bar

742
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,760
mitzvah for a child who

743
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:13,440
had grown fond of my dad and they

744
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,880
communicate my dad prayed with

745
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,320
with him and for him and things like

746
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,760
that for about a year and we were

747
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:19,200
invited to his bar mitzvah so we went

748
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:20,000
there

749
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:21,520
i'm in the park lane hotel in new york

750
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:23,440
city and our friend larry who flew us

751
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,720
out there

752
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:27,039
he's kind of hyping us up like hey chris

753
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,320
i have this friend in the cia i want you

754
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:29,760
to meet him his name's jim

755
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:32,320
so he arranged for us to meet he told

756
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:35,120
you cia out of the gate larry

757
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:38,399
oh yeah okay all right all right okay

758
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,679
yeah and when we met jim it was like

759
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,600
hey nice to meet you you know larry said

760
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:44,880
great things about you but but

761
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:48,240
jim didn't really act like he knew us

762
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:50,480
or knew of us that much up front i think

763
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,279
he was

764
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,120
you know playing his cool kind of like

765
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:55,120
double of seven or whatever he was

766
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,159
really yeah he is double 07.

767
00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:00,080
oh yeah yes he was he was not only

768
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,600
double or seven but he basically

769
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:03,279
employed double seven yes that's right

770
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,399
he trained him

771
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:06,960
yeah he's a very up there individual yes

772
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:07,760
and um

773
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,679
very very nice guy and he could just

774
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,120
make you laugh for hours

775
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,600
and when he met us he he like i said he

776
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:14,799
acted like he didn't really know of us

777
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,919
and then later

778
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:18,000
the next year i found out that he was

779
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:19,440
waiting to be introduced to us when he

780
00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:20,399
was retired

781
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,039
and that he heard about our story in

782
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:26,000
2008 when the first report

783
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:28,240
was made and basically he couldn't

784
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:29,679
contact us because he was active at the

785
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,720
time and he was

786
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,720
kind of pulling some strings behind the

787
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,640
scenes to make it line up

788
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:36,240
so he was being swapped but he knew who

789
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,840
we were and he actually arranged to meet

790
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:40,240
us

791
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,000
what was uh what was his interest

792
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,520
i'm always going to go back to this

793
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:47,200
religious side of things was that

794
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:50,559
something that he was asking about

795
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:54,159
let me put it this way he is a man

796
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,360
who is very high up there now with that

797
00:30:03,669 --> 00:29:58,880
being said

798
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,679
he is very careful about protocol

799
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,760
he wrote many of the rules for

800
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:07,520
operations within the cia and there's an

801
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:08,000
award

802
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,440
in his name at langley he's very careful

803
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:13,600
about those protocols

804
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,000
he doesn't he's not the type to say

805
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,679
you know get drunk with you and then say

806
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,200
oh my god look at this i got this

807
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,559
document you want to see it there's

808
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,159
people like that he's not like that

809
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,760
he won't even drink wine when he's in

810
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:27,120
the company of other people we tried

811
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:28,320
it's one of our gags like when we're

812
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:29,440
hanging out with him it's like

813
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,880
you know come on drink this wine our

814
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:32,799
friends had all this wine he won't do it

815
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,279
the gag

816
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:36,000
is that he's so tight-lipped you know so

817
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:37,279
he didn't really indicate

818
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:40,640
specifically um this that or the other

819
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:41,440
but the

820
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,799
thing that he would talk about is you

821
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:44,559
know the lady she's very real we know

822
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,000
that you're telling the truth chris

823
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,720
your story has to be told that's what he

824
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,559
tells my dad your story has to be told

825
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,919
it does not belong to the government it

826
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:53,679
belongs to the people

827
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:56,559
your story must be told he doesn't get

828
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:57,120
into the

829
00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:59,039
i believe your interpretation of it or

830
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,399
this is what's really going on

831
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,080
all he does is he just keeps telling us

832
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,600
your story has to be told i know you're

833
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,200
telling the truth chris

834
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:07,600
so it's a very interesting dynamic there

835
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:08,320
now did you

836
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,000
did you uh take the

837
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:14,799
opportunity to ask jim some questions

838
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,399
you know where are the bodies buried

839
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,000
where are the et bodies

840
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:21,039
where's the crash flying saucers um

841
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,640
you know are you hanging out with

842
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:24,559
anybody do we have contracts with zeta

843
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:25,519
reticuli

844
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:28,080
you know what i mean did you did you i

845
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:28,880
did jimmy

846
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,760
i did maybe it's because i grew up

847
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,519
around this stuff since the age of 13.

848
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:35,440
you kind of just it becomes so normal in

849
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:36,320
your brain

850
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,519
that when you meet these people it's

851
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,600
like oh great you know

852
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:42,000
check your list yeah hey yeah like

853
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:43,679
here's another one oh god you know mom

854
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,640
this guy's from

855
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:46,320
uh nasa this one's from naval

856
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,600
intelligence whatever it's like you meet

857
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:48,960
these people and it's all the same

858
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:52,320
after a point and i would ask him so

859
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,760
many questions

860
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:56,000
just to get reactions out of him and

861
00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:56,880
make him laugh

862
00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:00,159
and then his wife would be egging me on

863
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,600
like go ask him this go ask him to see

864
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,200
what he says just things like that

865
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,760
they want to tell the truth he just has

866
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:07,360
to follow the protocol you know

867
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:10,480
so i would ask him questions like um

868
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,519
why do we hide the truth about ufos why

869
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:15,440
don't they just come out and say it

870
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,840
and he said well what if

871
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:21,760
the reality of this is more complicated

872
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:23,200
than than

873
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,480
anybody can picture what if it's so

874
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:27,760
complicated

875
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:31,919
that there would be mass suicides

876
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:34,880
and the global continuity of government

877
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,600
would be lost

878
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,200
because of the fear and panic at the

879
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,880
truth of this phenomenon

880
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:41,039
would you tell people and i was like wow

881
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:43,039
i didn't really think about it that way

882
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:46,799
so he said he said et's are real he just

883
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,679
we can't tell the truth because of mass

884
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:50,640
panic

885
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:54,480
no with jim he always says what if right

886
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,760
you know because he has to be

887
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:57,200
tight-lipped so he doesn't come out and

888
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,840
say

889
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,760
yeah they're real oh my god this is he's

890
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:02,080
very careful he's a spy remember

891
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,080
so he says what if they were real

892
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:07,840
you know what i mean you catch my drift

893
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:11,360
he's a spy remember

894
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,600
that's true yeah exactly exactly um

895
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:18,000
when i'm looking at the clock i got

896
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:18,720
about a minute

897
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:21,120
ryan okay when when you ask him those

898
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:23,200
questions right about where the bodies

899
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:24,240
are buried or

900
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:27,760
crash flying saucers what's at area 51

901
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:31,039
um what was his demeanor

902
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,640
his demeanor was he would grin

903
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,880
and he would even make comments like you

904
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,640
know

905
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:40,399
he he was staggered one time i asked him

906
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:43,039
a question like is there such thing as

907
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:44,799
hybrid dna and he kind of took a step

908
00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:46,960
back and he's like these

909
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,799
these kids they're they're crazy this is

910
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:50,159
why i hate kids and then he just breaks

911
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,679
out laughing like he's messing with us

912
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,960
you know he likes the questions but he

913
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:54,399
can't answer them and he just like makes

914
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:56,000
a big scene of it he's a very funny guy

915
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:56,320
he

916
00:34:01,669 --> 00:33:59,440
comedian i could tell you that um

917
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,679
if you're listening jim you're hilarious

918
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:02,880
but anyway so

919
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:05,279
his demeanor was always laugh laugh like

920
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:06,559
what you know i can't believe you'd even

921
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:08,399
ask me this this is crazy

922
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,159
here's my answer this is this story

923
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,800
you know for example he told me um we

924
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:16,240
asked about

925
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:20,000
um are reptilians real his response is

926
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:20,639
something like

927
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:23,119
well there are certain elements to this

928
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:24,639
story that i believe

929
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:26,079
are credible and i'm going to leave it

930
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,669
good question he leaves it open-ended

931
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:33,679
but he nudges you in certain areas

932
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:36,480
see um i'm very rarely at a loss for

933
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,040
words

934
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,280
i mean you're asking the the right

935
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:41,760
questions you know to the right person

936
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,599
um i i i commend you for that we need to

937
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,960
take our break right here our guest

938
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:48,639
tonight the one and only ryan bledsoe

939
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first time on the show

940
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,679
first show of 2021

941
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i want to let everybody know yes our

942
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software died on the video feed

943
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,520
we'll do a quick edit and right now it's

944
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a part one and part two but

945
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:03,599
we'll have everything up uh later in its

946
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entirety

947
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all right everything else is in the

948
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archives it's good i'll be right back

949
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1038
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1042
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1043
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:21,680
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1044
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:28,230
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1045
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:30,560
on the game changer radio network

1046
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:49,349
all right welcome back fade to black our

1047
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:52,320
first show of 2021

1048
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:53,920
shaping up to be the best show of the

1049
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:56,160
year i might as well take a vacation

1050
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:58,000
there's no reason to do another show

1051
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:01,200
after tonight our guest is ryan bledsoe

1052
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:03,760
ryan um uh i'm gonna ask out of the

1053
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:04,400
gates

1054
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:07,839
uh did anybody uh

1055
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:11,440
reach out to you uh about tonight's show

1056
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,400
uh and suggesting things you could and

1057
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,160
couldn't say i'm talking about maybe

1058
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:19,040
semi-van or diana i know tyler's out of

1059
00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:19,920
the picture but

1060
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,839
anybody else you know they're all

1061
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,160
listening

1062
00:40:29,410 --> 00:40:27,359
um they did okay that's a good answer

1063
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,420
okay we can move on so um

1064
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:30,960
[Laughter]

1065
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,160
i wasn't expecting that one well

1066
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:36,319
um someone reached out to me i'll leave

1067
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:37,200
it at that

1068
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:40,800
and uh understood the

1069
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,119
um the things with ttsa

1070
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:48,000
um and of course you know jim semivan at

1071
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:48,560
the top

1072
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,680
of of the corporate ladder there um

1073
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,760
with the release of the three videos and

1074
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,119
the pilot testimony

1075
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:57,040
uh over the last three years it's not

1076
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,319
going into four years

1077
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,160
a lot of suggestions of threat to our

1078
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:02,560
military space this is a threat

1079
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,200
we need to take this serious and but

1080
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:07,520
based on your experiences

1081
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:11,040
did you guys ever feel threatened

1082
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:13,280
i mean i'd be lying to you if if i said

1083
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,560
that we never felt threatened you know

1084
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:16,240
the original night it was very scary at

1085
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,960
first

1086
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,960
but i think i was just listening to a

1087
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,800
interview dad

1088
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,319
an interview of his that aired today or

1089
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:24,000
yesterday and he even

1090
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:25,440
he was asked the same question and he

1091
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,040
said um they took my fear away

1092
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,119
and the point i'm making about that is

1093
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,079
yes of course it's scary at first but

1094
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:36,160
for the for the following years it it

1095
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:37,760
stopped being so scary and it started

1096
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,160
being more like crazy

1097
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,720
does that make sense yeah it does and

1098
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:44,960
this talk about a mass panic in the

1099
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,760
streets

1100
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,000
uh i don't feel that with all the

1101
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:49,440
disclosure that has gone

1102
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,319
down you've witnessed all of it uh you

1103
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,640
know over the last three years

1104
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,560
um i didn't see panic in the streets i

1105
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,160
didn't see the stock market crash

1106
00:42:01,430 --> 00:42:00,319
the vatican is still up and running

1107
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:01,440
right

1108
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:04,319
i don't see the mass panic i think

1109
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,520
everybody kind of

1110
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:07,119
expects that we're not alone in the

1111
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,440
universe so

1112
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:11,440
i think that disclosure coming from the

1113
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,119
highest levels would be a good thing

1114
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:15,119
these days don't you

1115
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:18,480
i do um fundamentally i believe

1116
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:22,079
that censorship is not right and i think

1117
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:22,720
that the

1118
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,720
people deserve to choose whether or not

1119
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,800
they want to handle the truth

1120
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,480
unfortunately i have no say in that but

1121
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:31,920
i 100 believe that we

1122
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:35,359
deserve the truth and that most of us

1123
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,960
would be able to handle it i do think

1124
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,560
that there would be a lot of

1125
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,880
um casualties and a lot of panic in some

1126
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,480
regards

1127
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,880
but don't you think we would panic if we

1128
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,560
realized

1129
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,920
that we don't know the truth because

1130
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,760
it's been hidden from us

1131
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,599
well there i think there'd be a lot of

1132
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,240
outrage if that was the disclosure

1133
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:56,400
right i think there would be a lot of

1134
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,280
angry people

1135
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,839
i think the other side of it is if we

1136
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:01,680
were told that we were alone in the

1137
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:02,560
universe

1138
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:05,119
right that we were all that there is

1139
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,880
that would cause panic

1140
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,040
i mean that that would not be a good

1141
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,440
feeling we need to

1142
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,119
we need to hear the opposite that

1143
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:15,280
there's a reason to

1144
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:18,480
uh to have goals and and to move forward

1145
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:20,240
with this planet right that's that's a

1146
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:20,960
that's a much

1147
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,160
better message for the world

1148
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,240
yeah absolutely i mean i i refuse to

1149
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,839
believe that we're just

1150
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:30,240
meaningless beings floating through

1151
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:31,839
space with no purpose other than to live

1152
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:33,200
and die i don't believe that at all i

1153
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:34,560
believe that there's destiny and there's

1154
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:35,280
fate

1155
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:37,040
and that they shape the course of our

1156
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,800
lives whether we know that or not

1157
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:41,520
it always so happens we look back five

1158
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,880
years ago ten years ago and it's like

1159
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,800
wow everything i did

1160
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:47,040
makes sense to where i am today i truly

1161
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:47,920
believe

1162
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:50,880
just like it was told to us that you

1163
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,720
know the adjustment bureau type of

1164
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,079
situation really is going

1165
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:56,400
on and these synchronicities are

1166
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,680
interactions in our life

1167
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,599
where things are being altered or we're

1168
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:01,040
we're getting a signal that we're in the

1169
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,400
right place at the right time things of

1170
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,599
that nature

1171
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,119
josh valet has a lot to say about that

1172
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,720
and i think he's absolutely right about

1173
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:07,599
synchronicities

1174
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,040
yes i i agree with you um i know that

1175
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:12,960
you listened to your father's interviews

1176
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:16,319
uh with me and he mentioned

1177
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,400
easter specifically okay um

1178
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,480
have you had any easter messages and

1179
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,240
easter's coming up right we're now at

1180
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:26,560
the beginning of a brand new year

1181
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:30,319
um any easter messages

1182
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:33,599
i have not um i don't really get

1183
00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:37,760
those kinds of visions and downloads in

1184
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:39,440
the same way that dad does i get a lot

1185
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,880
of synchronicities

1186
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:42,560
things like that but dad he just

1187
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,760
straight up he'll go to sleep and he'll

1188
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:45,119
wake up and he'll be like okay i have to

1189
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:46,400
tell this something's happening you know

1190
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,560
things of that nature or he'll hear it

1191
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:51,280
i don't personally really get those um i

1192
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:52,160
wanted to ask you

1193
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,000
i i i let this slip by um

1194
00:45:03,349 --> 00:44:59,680
the the little creature in the shed

1195
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:03,359
right um did that ever come back do you

1196
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:09,190
in the shed you mean the the night in

1197
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:10,640
2007 yes

1198
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,240
there there was a creature in the shed

1199
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:14,480
that your dad said had a weird skin

1200
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,079
to it yeah um

1201
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,760
so if you're talking about the little

1202
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:21,760
three to four foot being the one he said

1203
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:23,680
kind of appeared glass-like and glowed

1204
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:25,040
like the pale moon

1205
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:28,640
um i've seen one of those in my bedroom

1206
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:31,760
but it was 100 translucent like glass

1207
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,800
with no reflection

1208
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,079
it was like you could see it but it

1209
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,160
didn't have color physically

1210
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,800
physically there you weren't dreaming oh

1211
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:40,400
no it was there i was consciously wide

1212
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,599
awake and my

1213
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:43,599
best friend alex was with me and he saw

1214
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:44,880
it too

1215
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:48,319
you shut the front door

1216
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:51,119
okay yeah hold on a minute now i didn't

1217
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:51,440
i

1218
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:58,720
what happened uh what happened

1219
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:01,520
okay so uh what was your friend's name

1220
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:01,920
uh

1221
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,119
his name is alex is he is he okay

1222
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:07,440
he's okay that we're talking about him

1223
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,400
oh yeah absolutely

1224
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:10,480
okay so he's it's a sl he's spending the

1225
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,240
night at the house

1226
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:14,000
yeah so again you know i was i was in

1227
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:15,920
college at the time i was around 19

1228
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,319
20 21 something of that nature and as

1229
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:19,760
you know with college you

1230
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:22,160
you have like winter break spring break

1231
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:23,680
fall break and you know

1232
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,839
uh summer so there's a lot of downtime

1233
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:27,359
there where you're not at school or

1234
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,560
whatever and you just have these late

1235
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,079
nights to stay up and hang out and

1236
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:32,160
whatnot and we're hanging out one night

1237
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,200
and we were

1238
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,680
talking about this kind of stuff he's

1239
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:37,200
very interested and it just so happens

1240
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,040
that my friend

1241
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:41,599
his was either his mother or his

1242
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,520
grandmother also has seen ufos many

1243
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:44,560
years in the past

1244
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,960
and he grew up in two haunted houses so

1245
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,480
like this dude is marked

1246
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:50,160
like it was it was destiny that we were

1247
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:51,599
going to be such great friends it's we

1248
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:52,720
laugh about that all the time

1249
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,119
right um and i think his grandpa was a

1250
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,720
rosicrucians or just like it just keeps

1251
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:58,480
piling it on like all these weird things

1252
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,839
about us and our friendship

1253
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:01,760
so we talked about it all the time in

1254
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:04,960
private he was very interested

1255
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:07,520
and we were sitting there one night

1256
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:09,520
talking about this stuff

1257
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:12,640
and i felt something touch

1258
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:15,920
my like there's nothing to where i could

1259
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:17,119
reach out

1260
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:19,599
this invisible force but it felt warm it

1261
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:22,400
was a very strong warmth

1262
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:24,160
and when i lifted my shirt i had a red

1263
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,440
mark on my

1264
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,599
uh my ribs and at the time i was pretty

1265
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:28,960
new to having a cell phone so i didn't

1266
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:30,160
think to take a photo

1267
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:34,079
i was just freaked out you know and

1268
00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,599
i was a little alarmed by that and then

1269
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:37,280
my friend looks at me and then we look

1270
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:38,559
at the corner

1271
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,200
and there's this this short being

1272
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,800
sitting there and i knew he saw it both

1273
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,920
of our heads snapped towards the corner

1274
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,960
at the same moment

1275
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:46,480
it's about three four foot tall exactly

1276
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:48,160
like my dad described i knew it i could

1277
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:49,440
see the shape of the eyes they were

1278
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,559
perfectly round

1279
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,480
there was just no color and it was it

1280
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,400
was like a it was totally like a spirit

1281
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,760
or a piece of glass you know just

1282
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,839
totally see-through

1283
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,599
and um it disappeared and my friend said

1284
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,119
you saw that too right

1285
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:02,720
and i don't think we went to sleep until

1286
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,400
probably daylight because he was so

1287
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,480
hyped about it but it was a conscious

1288
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,839
living thing it was not a dream it was

1289
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,599
not a regression it was real time

1290
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:12,960
it touched me physically wow

1291
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,920
uh okay so it it disappeared so there

1292
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,079
was wasn't a chance for

1293
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,280
a communication or any type of message

1294
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,280
nope it was there for about two seconds

1295
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,960
just long enough for us to get a really

1296
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:26,559
good look at it and then it blinked out

1297
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:30,480
how's alex today uh you know what what

1298
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:32,559
he's great i mean he's he loves this

1299
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,000
stuff you know he supports me he's

1300
00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:36,160
always supported me he's one of the only

1301
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:37,599
friends i have a few

1302
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:39,040
he's one of the only friends who from

1303
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:40,319
the very beginning when they found out

1304
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,839
about it never doubted me

1305
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,839
and to me that means a lot and those few

1306
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:45,839
people that were like that

1307
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:47,359
to this day they're my closest friends

1308
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:48,480
because of that i've never forgotten

1309
00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:49,040
that

1310
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:53,119
encounter of the fifth kind i mean

1311
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:54,880
that's that's a straight out

1312
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:59,200
uh encounter is that the only one

1313
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,319
no there was another time i was

1314
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,119
physically touched um

1315
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:05,040
i was walking through the house and

1316
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:06,640
something touched me on the shoulder

1317
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:07,680
and then i turned around and there was

1318
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:10,240
an orb in the room and it disappeared

1319
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:13,359
um well i mean what's what's a ce5 just

1320
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,480
like seeing something physically

1321
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:16,160
enrolled it's a close encounter of the

1322
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:17,280
fifth kind

1323
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:19,200
you saw the movie right close encounters

1324
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,480
of the third kind

1325
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,319
i saw the third kind and i saw the fifth

1326
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,400
kind i i didn't really like that one as

1327
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:26,000
much it was

1328
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,119
it was out there um the

1329
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:32,160
uh is it the

1330
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,000
is it the property is it your dad

1331
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,960
it's our family it's your family yes do

1332
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:39,920
you think that

1333
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:43,119
your children are going to

1334
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:47,359
continue this contact of the family

1335
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,200
absolutely i do there is

1336
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,240
an old story about

1337
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,960
a cemetery in aurora texas you can look

1338
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,559
it up i think how papa meyer may have

1339
00:50:03,270 --> 00:49:59,920
even written about it in his book

1340
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,280
yeah i'd have to check on that 1893

1341
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:06,000
yes yes and the cemetery is primarily

1342
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,960
filled with

1343
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,880
um bledsoes and even the historical

1344
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:10,319
marker on the cemetery

1345
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:13,520
says george lost bledsoe well i spoke

1346
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,400
about this recently

1347
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,839
on an interview but there's only one

1348
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:17,599
bledsoe who came from england

1349
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:20,319
and all of the living bledsoes from that

1350
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:22,079
genealogy came from this one man and his

1351
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,040
three sons

1352
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,800
so we're all related even though it's

1353
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:26,319
very distantly every blood cell in this

1354
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,599
country is related if they weren't

1355
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:29,119
adopted right

1356
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,400
so that right there to me

1357
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,480
is already one piece of this puzzle and

1358
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,319
then the other piece is

1359
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,000
i probably shouldn't say a name or too

1360
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:40,000
much detail here but we were indicated

1361
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:43,599
by some um people

1362
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,640
in some of these black type communities

1363
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:48,559
you know what i mean like black ops type

1364
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,960
we were indicated that there may be

1365
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,000
something to do

1366
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:55,119
with like our genealogy why we're having

1367
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,480
these experiences at such a high

1368
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,839
frequency and then that would also

1369
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,200
explain

1370
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,760
the bledsoe cemetery in the 1800s i mean

1371
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:03,760
it always seems to be around our family

1372
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,960
in some form or another

1373
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,400
yeah i think my children absolutely

1374
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,240
would be marked just like i am

1375
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:12,880
and and uh i i just want to ask you this

1376
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:14,079
really quick how's your mom

1377
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,880
today is she is she fully on board now

1378
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,640
no she'll never be fully on board but

1379
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:22,000
she's on board

1380
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:25,280
um you know she

1381
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,800
she still has her it's weird because

1382
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,319
oh i almost dropped my computer sorry

1383
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:34,160
about that it's weird because

1384
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,000
my mom um she knows

1385
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:40,559
now that it's all real and she's had so

1386
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,960
many high strange experiences of her own

1387
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,240
that she can't deny

1388
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:47,280
the factuality of it but she just flat

1389
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:48,000
out

1390
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,040
doesn't like it she doesn't like it she

1391
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:52,720
supports me she supports my father

1392
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,520
that's great

1393
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,960
she doesn't like it and she doesn't have

1394
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:56,960
to you know um

1395
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:59,680
in some way it scares her she doesn't

1396
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,040
think she's in any danger but it's just

1397
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:03,040
such a confrontation to her

1398
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,640
the way she was raised and her family

1399
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,480
dynamic and everything is just

1400
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,920
you know i felt like it'd be easier for

1401
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,520
her if it had never happened in the

1402
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:11,359
first place but with that being said she

1403
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:15,440
does support us now uh

1404
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,720
when did you guys move uh to the new

1405
00:52:24,829 --> 00:52:20,319
property

1406
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:27,910
2016. everything just

1407
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:30,559
transferred oh yeah it went right along

1408
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:31,440
you just came with us

1409
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:34,800
right along um i know that your dad

1410
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:38,160
had mentioned i'm a tech guy i have

1411
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:39,119
night vision

1412
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,440
goggles and binoculars and equipment and

1413
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:47,520
things that i can go and do stuff with

1414
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:51,119
and that kind of started too at uh

1415
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,559
at your place where you've got

1416
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:54,480
researchers now people wanted to show up

1417
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:55,040
with

1418
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,040
scientific equipment and approach this

1419
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,040
with the scientific method

1420
00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:01,359
and hoping that your dad can call in

1421
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:03,200
some ships or something could happen and

1422
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:04,720
they could turn around

1423
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:07,359
and scientifically take a look at what

1424
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,559
is going on

1425
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:11,119
right is that more at the new house than

1426
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,520
it was at the old house

1427
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:15,040
no no that kind of stuff did go on at

1428
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,559
the old house but you know

1429
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,319
the unfortunate thing about this subject

1430
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:19,839
is everybody that comes and takes this

1431
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:20,640
data

1432
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:21,920
they're not just going to publish it to

1433
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:24,559
the world you know um that has happened

1434
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:25,440
those kinds of things

1435
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,520
we've had um other investigations and

1436
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:29,040
whatnot and you know what

1437
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:30,240
now that we're on the subject you should

1438
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:32,160
ask your wonderful guest tomorrow dr bob

1439
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:33,920
mcguire because he's one of those people

1440
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:35,440
who wants to come and we're we're

1441
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,800
willing to cooperate with him as just

1442
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:38,559
kovit has slowed him down

1443
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:41,040
um but he's one of them and he's not the

1444
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:42,559
only one

1445
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:45,359
um i know that there's this other person

1446
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,480
i'm not going to say her name because

1447
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:48,319
she has remained anonymous but she's

1448
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:52,000
a a nice lady who is somehow or another

1449
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:53,200
employed by

1450
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:55,119
a university on the science side of

1451
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:56,559
things i don't think she was a professor

1452
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:57,520
but she was like

1453
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,240
on the medical science stuff you know

1454
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:02,559
research and whatnot

1455
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:06,240
and she was a paranormal investigator as

1456
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:07,200
well

1457
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:09,839
and she was on a mountain i think it was

1458
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:11,359
in north carolina or tennessee

1459
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:12,640
we have a huge mountain range down here

1460
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,800
in the south she was on the top of a

1461
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,400
mountain with a spirit box

1462
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:17,760
you know what a spirit box is i'm sure

1463
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:20,240
you do sure yep so she had a spirit box

1464
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,160
and she was asking out loud

1465
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,160
where should i go next for my

1466
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:28,319
investigation

1467
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:31,920
and the spirit box said chris bledsoe

1468
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,750
that's where my dad lives is hope mills

1469
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,960
she'd never heard of my dad and she

1470
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,480
googled him she found him she came she

1471
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,240
brought her spirit box

1472
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:43,760
um she got a lot of audio out of that

1473
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:45,599
weird stuff a lot of people kind of ask

1474
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:46,400
about this

1475
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:48,240
you know tell me about the can you we're

1476
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:49,200
taking them to the other side of the

1477
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:50,640
moon well that all that audio was on a

1478
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:51,760
spear box

1479
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:53,599
and the funny thing about that is are

1480
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,880
you familiar with that night by the way

1481
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:56,160
should i preface that yeah

1482
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,839
actually tell us about that the audience

1483
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,520
maybe okay yeah

1484
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,680
so i'll just back up a couple steps here

1485
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:03,040
so she was on the mountain she got the

1486
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,400
message that said chris bledsoe hope

1487
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:06,319
mills and she's like oh my gosh google's

1488
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,000
my dad and you know what do you know

1489
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:10,160
he's real and he lives in hope mills so

1490
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:11,280
she she comes out to

1491
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,559
see us it turns out she only lives a

1492
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,720
couple hours away from us and she brings

1493
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:16,160
the spirit box she brings some pretty

1494
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,680
nice camera equipment

1495
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:19,680
and it's all infrared she sets it up in

1496
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:21,839
our backyard

1497
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,599
and she and she lets the camera run and

1498
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:25,280
she just keeps sweeping the spirit box

1499
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:25,839
thing

1500
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:28,160
and i was very skeptical of it this

1501
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,760
might be shocking to many people but i

1502
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:31,359
have a skeptical

1503
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:34,160
analytical brain the only thing is i've

1504
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,599
spent 14 years from childhood to

1505
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:37,280
adulthood thinking about these concepts

1506
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:38,559
and really letting them soak in but i'm

1507
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:39,040
a very

1508
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,960
upfront skeptical person and i i thought

1509
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:42,640
the spirit box was wacky i thought it

1510
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:43,440
was kooky

1511
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,640
until i started saying some very

1512
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:46,319
specific things that got all of our

1513
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:47,200
attention

1514
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,599
and it was saying things like um you

1515
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:51,599
know we're abducting you now

1516
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,880
um very clear recognizable audio and we

1517
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,319
do have those files somewhere i just

1518
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,920
don't think that the researcher ever

1519
00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:00,000
was ready for them to be released for

1520
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:01,520
the sake of her and an enemy anemone

1521
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:03,680
anonymity and it's not our data so

1522
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:04,559
people are always like why don't you

1523
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,760
release it why don't you release it well

1524
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:07,520
it's not our data it's hers

1525
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:11,599
um anyway so it said specific things

1526
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:12,160
like that

1527
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:14,319
and there was this time period where i

1528
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,359
had gone inside

1529
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:16,960
my fiance was probably hanging out with

1530
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,720
me or around at the time and we went

1531
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:20,480
inside to watch a movie

1532
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,440
um so dad and the researcher and my

1533
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:25,440
mother and then my next door neighbor

1534
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:27,119
who is also my cousin

1535
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,520
stephanie they were all out back and

1536
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:31,599
they had over two hours of missing time

1537
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:34,559
that was documented on this camera

1538
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:37,119
now during the missing time was when all

1539
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:39,040
that audio came from that spirit box

1540
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:40,319
that said all these weird things

1541
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,520
like you know we're abducting you now

1542
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:45,280
take off we're gonna take you to the

1543
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:46,720
other side of the moon thing

1544
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:49,280
it just said a bunch of things like that

1545
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:51,119
now on the camera the camera captured

1546
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:52,319
something weird

1547
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:55,839
it captured a video of a little

1548
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,760
now remember this is pitch black out in

1549
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,760
the deep country on a six acre property

1550
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:01,200
surrounded by trees

1551
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,480
there's not there's not a lot of light

1552
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,400
other than the stars and the moon there

1553
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:06,319
and on this infrared camera it picked up

1554
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,440
this little

1555
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,440
glowing being of light just kind of

1556
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:11,680
strutting through the yard

1557
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:13,440
and then and it happens really quick but

1558
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:14,480
we slowed the video down you could

1559
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:15,040
really see it

1560
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:17,040
stretched through the yard and then it

1561
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:18,799
gets to the other side of the tree the

1562
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,599
burning tree

1563
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:22,000
the camera was trained on the tree this

1564
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,760
little bean stops and then it flashes

1565
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,440
really bright

1566
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:27,440
and in that frame there's about an eight

1567
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,720
or a nine foot tall

1568
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,480
figure of light and it all happens so

1569
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,160
fast it's like some dorothy isaac stuff

1570
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:34,160
that you have to slow down the

1571
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:36,559
footage to really see it but um there

1572
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:38,240
were two beings in this video and my

1573
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:40,160
father and i

1574
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:43,119
took this video to new york city and we

1575
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,599
um

1576
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:44,880
showed it for the first time to jim

1577
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:46,960
semivan in a private meeting

1578
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:49,200
and he he was stunned and he wanted a

1579
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,400
copy of it to go

1580
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:53,280
show some folks so a lot of people see

1581
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:55,200
it they they won't they won't really

1582
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:56,960
oh you know it's photoshop whatever but

1583
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,960
it was very real it's taken on a very

1584
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,000
nice camera

1585
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:02,880
infrared pitch black real light sources

1586
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:03,680
missing time

1587
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,839
yeah i've i've seen the video and the

1588
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:08,880
orb uh

1589
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:12,000
as it comes around the tree and

1590
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:14,799
i'm trying to remember exactly but this

1591
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:15,520
wasn't

1592
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,079
like how do i explain this we've all

1593
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:20,720
seen the dust specs or insects

1594
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:23,040
you know and things like that that's not

1595
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:24,240
what this

1596
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:27,680
was this was a very physical

1597
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:30,960
thing and uh i think there were a couple

1598
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:32,559
of comments in the audio

1599
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:35,599
about this you know about this this orb

1600
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,559
and

1601
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:38,640
i was i was pretty blown away when it

1602
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:40,799
comes to orb stuff i'm very skeptical

1603
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:43,920
man and i i've seen one orb

1604
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:46,720
but but that video i've seen one that i

1605
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:48,480
can't explain i should say you know it's

1606
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:49,359
not a

1607
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,680
it's not some anomaly this was with my

1608
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:52,960
naked eye

1609
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:56,960
right but that video uh was mind-blowing

1610
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:59,680
mind-blowing and then it just stops um

1611
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:00,400
yeah

1612
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,559
what happens uh in the second video

1613
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:07,920
when it when it continues

1614
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:11,040
now which video are you well because the

1615
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,000
missing time part

1616
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:16,880
the video that i saw stops at the light

1617
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:18,240
explosion

1618
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:21,119
right it's well actually i'm glad you

1619
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:22,319
described it that way so that little

1620
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,200
light explosion

1621
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:25,839
happens so quick that they have to take

1622
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:27,520
it down to like

1623
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:30,720
extremely slow frames to even catch that

1624
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,839
but when you watch the video

1625
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:33,200
you probably haven't seen the full speed

1626
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,359
video it's very short and it all happens

1627
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,200
in in like the blink of an eye caught on

1628
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,520
this camera the video you saw i would

1629
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:40,880
wager is the slowed down version where

1630
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:42,559
they're dissecting it frame by frame and

1631
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:43,599
you can really see the shapes and the

1632
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:44,079
forms

1633
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:46,240
right but um i'm not i'm not familiar

1634
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:47,440
with a second video are you talking

1635
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:48,240
about the one with

1636
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:52,000
uh i thought that there was

1637
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:56,000
uh a cl uh a second video

1638
01:00:02,549 --> 00:59:59,520
uh a couple hours later

1639
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,559
i'm not sure let's call dad exactly i'm

1640
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:04,000
waiting for chris to show up in the

1641
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:04,720
background

1642
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,920
uh any second now um before we get to

1643
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:09,680
the break i'm gonna ask you is it

1644
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:13,359
uh can you hang out for some overtime

1645
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:16,960
oh yeah okay cool um the

1646
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,559
uh your dad left us on a cliffhanger

1647
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:23,280
and i know he's listening right now and

1648
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:23,920
so

1649
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:30,240
ignore the text okay okay well he hasn't

1650
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:30,960
texted me yet

1651
01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:36,079
okay good good um he described

1652
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:43,349
it's triangle yeah try the triangle yeah

1653
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:44,319
i said diamond

1654
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:48,000
triangle symbol can we talk about that

1655
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,480
sure um how long do we have uh we've got

1656
01:00:52,870 --> 01:00:51,920
two minutes and then we'll pick up after

1657
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,880
the break

1658
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:54,720
okay and just full disclosure jimmy my

1659
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:56,160
whole night is yours however you want to

1660
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:57,920
go don't don't sweat it i'm here

1661
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,160
but with that being said um so the

1662
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:02,079
triangle is something that was on the

1663
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:02,720
chest

1664
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:04,319
of these beings can you hear me i think

1665
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:05,760
i had to mute but no no you're good

1666
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,240
you're good

1667
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,240
okay okay so the triangle was on the

1668
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,480
chest of the small being

1669
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:12,240
the the little three to four foot tall

1670
01:01:14,789 --> 01:01:13,599
one and then the triangle was also on

1671
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:14,799
the chest of the lady

1672
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:17,920
and my father was basically

1673
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:20,000
told not only by these beings but also

1674
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:21,839
by some other folks who study this

1675
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:24,160
symbology and what they believe it is

1676
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:26,240
the the triangle is said to represent

1677
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:29,040
um the trinity of creation it's the most

1678
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:30,720
powerful shape in all of

1679
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,520
uh nature or geometry or whatever i mean

1680
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:35,040
even if you break it down from like an

1681
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,720
everyday blue collar perspective

1682
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:38,799
i have a buddy who's a a police officer

1683
01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:40,079
and he he had to go through

1684
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:42,799
um like building rescue training and

1685
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:43,839
what's the shape they cut into a

1686
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:45,040
building that's falling down

1687
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:47,520
a triangle because it can geometrically

1688
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:48,960
um withstand all the force of a

1689
01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:50,400
collapsing building or

1690
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:51,920
you know that's probably a simplified

1691
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:53,680
version of it it's a powerful shape

1692
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:54,799
metaphorically

1693
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:58,240
physically literally um symbolically

1694
01:02:01,670 --> 01:01:59,760
you have the great pyramid of egypt

1695
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:01,680
you've got the triangle on the back of

1696
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:02,640
the dollar bill

1697
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:04,319
you've got the symbology the all-seeing

1698
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:05,920
eye and

1699
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:07,920
it has three points yes it's always

1700
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:09,200
three points

1701
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:10,640
representing the three forces of

1702
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:13,359
creation now

1703
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:16,880
that triangle was it on

1704
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:20,079
the being that you saw in your room now

1705
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,680
this being was so translucent

1706
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,760
uh translucent that the only detail i

1707
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:25,839
could make out was the outline shape

1708
01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,119
which would be like hands legs head

1709
01:02:32,549 --> 01:02:31,520
it had an inner kind of filled out space

1710
01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:32,559
and i could see

1711
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:35,039
round eyes but i did not see any other

1712
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:35,760
details

1713
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:38,720
okay uh chris did he see the triangle on

1714
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:40,240
his beings

1715
01:02:47,910 --> 01:02:44,799
and also

1716
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:47,920
on the lady yes

1717
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:51,520
was it ever on a craft

1718
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:54,960
um i don't know

1719
01:03:02,150 --> 01:02:58,720
but i do know that there is uh this

1720
01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:02,160
picture floating around we were told by

1721
01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:04,960
some folks in the invisible college uh

1722
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:06,559
and that's a reference to the figures

1723
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:07,280
from um

1724
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,200
american cosmic for your readers doctor

1725
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:10,720
dynapsalka her book just read that book

1726
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,359
and you'll know

1727
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:13,599
who i'm referring to but we were told by

1728
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:14,640
some of these figures that there was

1729
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:15,200
this

1730
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:17,119
metal that was gifted to us and when we

1731
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:18,640
were shown the photo of it it had

1732
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:20,079
triangle symbol it was it kind of looked

1733
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,280
like the philosopher's stone with the

1734
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:22,960
circle in the triangle

1735
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:26,000
um that that that is found on crafts by

1736
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:27,440
these people but i have not witnessed

1737
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:28,079
this

1738
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:30,960
there is uh and i'll give you a little

1739
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:31,760
homework

1740
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:34,400
uh you know what somebody in twitter one

1741
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:35,680
of the fader knots

1742
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:37,359
so ryan can look at this during the

1743
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:38,720
break pop

1744
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:42,079
up the socorro new mexico

1745
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:44,880
symbol uh on the side of the craft uh

1746
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:45,680
with uh

1747
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:48,720
lonnie zamora and that'll pop up here in

1748
01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:49,839
twitter

1749
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:53,440
and i want you to look at this

1750
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:55,920
symbol there's two versions of it uh

1751
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:58,559
fade or not you know which one uh uh pop

1752
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:00,480
up the real symbol

1753
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,400
um this was also red okay so ryan i want

1754
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:05,760
you to take a look at this

1755
01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:08,240
and see if it stirs a memory in the

1756
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,119
meantime

1757
01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:11,280
while that pops up in twitter i will

1758
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take our break right here this is fade

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to black our first show of 2021

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our guest ryan bledsoe i am your host

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jimmy church you can follow ryan

1762
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on twitter at ryan bledsoe we've got

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everything up in the twitter feed

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you can follow me on twitter at j church

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radio this is fade to black our murals

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overtime with ryan blood so when we come

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back stay with us

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01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,990
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

1875
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,759
jimmy church what a great show tonight

1876
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:37,679
our guest ryan bledsoe

1877
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:41,040
best way to kick off the new year 2021

1878
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:42,560
i want everybody to have the most

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amazing

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great year we have no choice but to have

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a

1882
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,320
overtime

1883
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:00,080
uh to get a little bit loose you know

1884
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:01,760
and i want to thank you for being very

1885
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,800
open and and you know this is a it's a

1886
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:06,640
tough subject to discuss

1887
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,920
i'm not the easiest host uh to uh

1888
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,520
uh you know because i'm always gonna ask

1889
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:13,440
the questions and i am going to press

1890
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:16,480
and you just did a wonderful job tonight

1891
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:18,800
we just posted up in twitter i was

1892
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:20,560
watching you on the camera

1893
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,400
looking at these symbols anything stir

1894
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:24,320
your memory

1895
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:27,280
um no i mean with every and all the

1896
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:29,040
depictions that my father

1897
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,120
drew it was a regular just pointed up

1898
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:35,199
triangle but looking at those photos

1899
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:36,640
that you showed me i just did a quick

1900
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:37,440
little look

1901
01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:40,239
to me that loosely resembles alchemical

1902
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:42,560
symbols like for air

1903
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:44,719
for ariel we're gonna find if we really

1904
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:46,239
look at this stuff closely that a lot of

1905
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:47,679
these symbols that we're being shown are

1906
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:48,640
alchemical

1907
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:51,679
or occult in nature and that's about all

1908
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:53,600
i'll say on that but people should um

1909
01:10:57,750 --> 01:10:55,760
just just notice those patterns is all i

1910
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:57,760
have to say yeah very interesting very

1911
01:11:01,750 --> 01:10:58,719
interesting this

1912
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:01,760
this symbol uh it's got a lot of history

1913
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:03,120
behind it

1914
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,320
in that what lonnie zamora originally

1915
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:09,040
described uh to the fbi in the air force

1916
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:10,400
when they showed up at this

1917
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,760
uh at the scene uh they had him change

1918
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:15,760
his story

1919
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:18,400
of the description of what the symbol

1920
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,280
was

1921
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:21,840
because they didn't want the real symbol

1922
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:23,840
out they didn't want to have copycats

1923
01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:26,320
come in that was part of their story

1924
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:29,679
um and so there was that's why you see

1925
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:30,560
decoy

1926
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:34,000
you see that there um so there was the

1927
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:36,800
alternate version of it uh and then

1928
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:38,560
there was the real version that

1929
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:42,320
came out uh later uh of what the symbol

1930
01:11:45,189 --> 01:11:42,719
was

1931
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:45,199
so that's why uh there's a lot of

1932
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:47,040
history behind it and i just wanted you

1933
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:48,000
to take a look at this

1934
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:51,520
also um uh i hope your data is

1935
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,560
uh keeping his eye on twitter that he

1936
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:55,920
could take a look at this too

1937
01:12:02,070 --> 01:11:59,280
as well and go huh okay all right um uh

1938
01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:02,080
just to see if there's any similarity

1939
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:02,480
there

1940
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:04,800
a lot of controversy behind the symbol

1941
01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:06,320
uh red triangle

1942
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:09,600
and you know and then you look at this

1943
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:13,040
uh it's kind of hard to not uh realize

1944
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:13,840
that there

1945
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:16,560
there's a similarity there right now i

1946
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:17,840
wanted to ask you that okay

1947
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:23,760
so let's go loosen up a little bit um

1948
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:27,679
how what's what's the process

1949
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:30,800
uh that you guys go through in the

1950
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:32,719
backyard

1951
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:35,520
right is there is there a mood that is

1952
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:36,159
set

1953
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:39,120
do you guys say anything is your dad

1954
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,040
doing anything

1955
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:43,360
um and then i'll hit you with my next

1956
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,159
question as you answer that

1957
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:48,960
okay so when we have sightings together

1958
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,640
um

1959
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:52,560
dad says come outside i feel like

1960
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:54,000
tonight's gonna be a good night and we

1961
01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:54,800
go outside

1962
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:56,480
and you know usually we just chit chat

1963
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:58,080
so normal to us

1964
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,280
you know me and my brother we live in

1965
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:00,880
different towns so when when we meet up

1966
01:13:03,350 --> 01:13:02,320
and hang out we're sometimes we just

1967
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:03,360
want to talk and dad's like all right

1968
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,239
guys focus

1969
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:06,960
get your minds on this clear your minds

1970
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,000
and he

1971
01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:10,640
he directs us to get our thoughts and

1972
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:12,400
intentions on this kind of thing

1973
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:13,120
appearing

1974
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:16,000
it's it's not like some ritual or some

1975
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,800
protocol

1976
01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:18,640
it's just clearing our minds and just

1977
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:20,560
thinking about it

1978
01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:23,679
and then and then it appears yeah

1979
01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:27,440
right on now uh we do the same thing

1980
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:31,040
okay so we go out we sky watch and

1981
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:34,320
it's always for us it is

1982
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:37,760
the intention happiness you know

1983
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:41,120
no anger clear mind and right and then

1984
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,840
and things

1985
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:44,400
just start to happen and i think that

1986
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,080
there is a conscious connection

1987
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,199
there right where

1988
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:52,239
they whoever they are

1989
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:55,520
are able to communicate in a very

1990
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:57,520
strange way right that's exactly what's

1991
01:14:03,430 --> 01:13:59,840
going on

1992
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:03,440
my opinion it is to the highest degree

1993
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:06,800
of improbability that these beings are

1994
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:08,880
sitting on a spinning disc just above

1995
01:14:12,470 --> 01:14:10,320
our atmosphere

1996
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:12,480
zooming in with a powerful telescope

1997
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:13,600
watching us and then saying all right

1998
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:14,880
all right all right what are they saying

1999
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:16,480
great let's mess with them

2000
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:19,760
to me the level of interaction that um

2001
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:21,440
genuine experiencers that we have met

2002
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:23,040
and we've heard of and then you know

2003
01:14:27,669 --> 01:14:26,000
us and you and other folks the level of

2004
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:27,679
interaction that's happening

2005
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:30,719
is utterly ridiculous to consider

2006
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:33,760
that it would be just these biologically

2007
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:34,320
smart

2008
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:37,440
beings i think that is a very simple way

2009
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,120
to think about a phenomenon because we

2010
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:41,679
were told to think about it that way

2011
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:43,920
starting around the 1950s and that has

2012
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:45,040
been maintained

2013
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:48,239
i i i think it's 100 percent

2014
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:51,920
a multi-dimensional multi-faceted

2015
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:55,360
spiritual mental phenomenon

2016
01:15:02,709 --> 01:14:59,440
have you have you been regressed

2017
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,719
uh not yes but it was

2018
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,560
uh it was a past life regression i was

2019
01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:06,800
like a farmer or something like that

2020
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:08,880
nothing nothing exotic you weren't king

2021
01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:10,480
arthur

2022
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:13,600
no it was just like a farmer okay but uh

2023
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:17,199
no uh ufo regressions

2024
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:19,520
no and i have regretted to jot those

2025
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:21,120
questions down but the purpose of me

2026
01:15:23,830 --> 01:15:21,760
doing this

2027
01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:23,840
regression was that same friend of mine

2028
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:25,520
larry who who

2029
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:28,640
connected us with um jim semivan he like

2030
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:29,280
he's really

2031
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:31,440
into these past life regressions he's

2032
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:32,719
really into them

2033
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:35,920
and he said i'll pay for you to have one

2034
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:38,159
and i was like okay sure and i accepted

2035
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:39,360
i didn't even believe it

2036
01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,400
i just i did it because he he insisted

2037
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:44,480
and um i i didn't think to write down

2038
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:45,760
questions about this and i've regretted

2039
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:46,480
it ever since

2040
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:49,760
well that missing time episode with your

2041
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:52,000
with your dad and your mom in in the

2042
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:53,199
backyard

2043
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:55,520
that's an interesting situation i've

2044
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:57,120
never asked him about this was he

2045
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:58,080
regressed

2046
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,520
did they ever find out what happened

2047
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:01,679
with that missing time

2048
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:04,400
not that specific night but he has to

2049
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:06,480
this day been regressed three or four

2050
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:09,679
separate occasions but every recent time

2051
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:11,600
he's been regressed has strictly been

2052
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:13,040
about the lady

2053
01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:14,960
and he consciously experienced the lady

2054
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:16,080
that's one thing

2055
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:17,920
to um seriously consider when hearing

2056
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:19,040
the subject it was a conscious

2057
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:20,640
experience it was not a dream

2058
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,480
he woke up the next morning on the floor

2059
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:24,480
fully clothed he really got out of bed

2060
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:26,239
all that stuff was conscious

2061
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:28,159
but there was more to it that was

2062
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:29,600
unconscious and when he had the

2063
01:16:33,669 --> 01:16:31,199
regression there was

2064
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:33,679
just this massive transcript it was like

2065
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:36,320
a treasure trove of information that

2066
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,159
um corroborated what he had experienced

2067
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:40,960
consciously but then dove deeper into

2068
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,199
the experience and expanded upon it

2069
01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:45,679
very very interesting exotic things very

2070
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,880
exotic things

2071
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:49,280
have you uh have you wondered why you

2072
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:55,110
no i just i support my dad 100 percent

2073
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,920
and um

2074
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:57,840
i i don't think it's about no it's not

2075
01:17:01,750 --> 01:16:59,280
about yeah no

2076
01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:01,760
no i totally know that your dad is going

2077
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,320
through this

2078
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,320
i mean you you got to be a little

2079
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:05,920
jealous right don't you want

2080
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:09,360
in on some of that action no i don't

2081
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,400
really see it that way i don't really

2082
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:12,320
see it as jealousy i think it's

2083
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:15,199
it's amazing that in my eyes my dad is

2084
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:16,239
like a superhero

2085
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:17,760
you know what kid wouldn't want that i

2086
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,920
don't want to be my dad you know i love

2087
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:21,440
it i'm i'm not jealous at all

2088
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:24,159
oh man have you asked him have you said

2089
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:25,760
hey dad

2090
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:28,800
what what the can i meet the lady

2091
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:30,239
yeah he says things like you probably

2092
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,239
ain't ready yet like

2093
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:34,000
it's a very powerful experience i mean

2094
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,159
just just again back to the bible i'm

2095
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:38,239
not saying that this is true or false

2096
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:39,840
but even the stories that they wrote

2097
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:41,600
about thousands of years ago you know

2098
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:44,159
moses went up to the top of the mountain

2099
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:46,159
sinai to get the tablets and it said

2100
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,480
that when he saw

2101
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:50,000
god he was so bright that he had to come

2102
01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:51,520
down with a cloth because his face was

2103
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:52,400
shining

2104
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,920
and i think that's a powerful metaphor

2105
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:55,520
about the effect that these beings have

2106
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:57,360
on you it's not just like oh man when am

2107
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:58,320
i going to see it

2108
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:01,440
you might not be able to handle it you

2109
01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:02,719
know

2110
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:06,159
do you guys do you guys have people

2111
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:08,719
stopping by your dad's house

2112
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:12,640
wanting to go ahead you know what i mean

2113
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:16,080
i'm thinking about all of the uh ufo hot

2114
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:17,520
spots around the country right

2115
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:21,440
well uh and and here you guys are are

2116
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:23,199
people coming by

2117
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:26,320
uh almost like a tourist destination

2118
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:28,239
and and wondering if they could hang out

2119
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:29,840
in the backyard

2120
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:33,360
it used to be that way before we

2121
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:35,920
got involved with folks in the invisible

2122
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:38,719
college and intelligence communities

2123
01:18:42,070 --> 01:18:40,480
it used to be free reign we would let

2124
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:42,080
anybody come by and just

2125
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:43,760
we would let people sleep in our yard in

2126
01:18:47,189 --> 01:18:45,360
tents and campers i mean we've had

2127
01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:47,199
hundreds over the years

2128
01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:49,280
but we just don't really let that happen

2129
01:18:59,189 --> 01:18:56,470
did uh did anybody in those tents did

2130
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:59,199
they have experiences too

2131
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,880
yes many of them and many of them have

2132
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:02,719
been healed of sicknesses and

2133
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:05,840
um cancers and things of the like i mean

2134
01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:07,280
they came to our house for an experience

2135
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:08,560
and they got one

2136
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:10,080
skeptics don't just come and want to

2137
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,840
have tea with you for days and days and

2138
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,960
camp you know those kinds of people

2139
01:19:15,430 --> 01:19:14,000
didn't really come around and when they

2140
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:15,440
did we invited them

2141
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:16,960
we never told them they couldn't you

2142
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:19,040
know now what's going on

2143
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,480
with uh the government's side

2144
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,960
of things today not necessarily jim

2145
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:26,480
semivan because he's

2146
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:29,840
uh you know he's off into ttsa land

2147
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:33,040
but is the government still

2148
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:35,920
there and in contact and showing

2149
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:43,270
we are still regularly

2150
01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:46,560
being contacted by members of various

2151
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:48,719
communities and and that's about all

2152
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:50,560
i'll say about that

2153
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:53,600
like up until recently like up at

2154
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:56,719
uh yes up until this week yes and and

2155
01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:57,440
presently

2156
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,360
and i 100 know that it will be ongoing

2157
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:03,360
and it will never stop

2158
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:06,560
um okay you just said this week what

2159
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:13,110
you put me in a corner here timmy it's

2160
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:15,679
my job it's my job ryan i know i know

2161
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:18,480
okay okay i'm gonna i believe that if

2162
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,840
you ever ask this question i could say

2163
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:21,679
this in a very discreet way

2164
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:23,600
where you can understand what i'm saying

2165
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:25,360
but just don't worry about the who

2166
01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:26,800
unfortunately but let's just say that

2167
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:28,719
there are still

2168
01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,040
people of various

2169
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:35,199
organizations around the globe involved

2170
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:36,719
with aerospace

2171
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:40,159
and other powerful communities of this

2172
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:40,719
nature

2173
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:43,840
that are presently in contact with us

2174
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:46,480
on a regular or semi-regular basis and

2175
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:47,679
i'm not going to

2176
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:50,880
go ahead no that's cool but what

2177
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:54,159
what what are they interested in is it

2178
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:55,760
the technology

2179
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,400
is it the religious side you know what

2180
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:00,560
what is it

2181
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:02,080
people never come to our house saying

2182
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,920
what's the technology

2183
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:05,440
they come to our house saying what is

2184
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:07,600
the lady saying

2185
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:10,560
let's see some orbs they know that this

2186
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:11,920
on the inside

2187
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:15,120
you know people who truly know um

2188
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:18,320
they know that this phenomenon is weird

2189
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:21,440
there's a weird desk you know they know

2190
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:22,400
that this is weird

2191
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:25,360
they know it's not 100 nuts and bolts

2192
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:26,960
and if someone gets up there and says it

2193
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:28,320
is they either really believe it or

2194
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,280
they're flat out lying

2195
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:30,960
they know that's not the case i can

2196
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:32,400
promise you that i would bet

2197
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:35,120
my entire life on that they come here to

2198
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:36,400
see this phenomenon

2199
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:39,440
that we see they ask us dads how to put

2200
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:41,120
it in writing to the lady or to the

2201
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:42,719
pentagon about what the lady said things

2202
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:43,760
of that nature

2203
01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:46,080
i will say recently i have been in touch

2204
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:48,159
with um

2205
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:51,840
some friends who remain anonymous

2206
01:21:58,870 --> 01:21:55,600
and when i say friends i mean members of

2207
01:22:02,229 --> 01:21:58,880
special communities if if that

2208
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:02,239
is clear my father just recently did an

2209
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:03,760
interview within the last few days

2210
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:08,080
and he made a comment that back in 2008

2211
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:11,679
he had a vision or whatever

2212
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,800
you would call it we didn't know what

2213
01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:14,159
remote viewing was at the time we hadn't

2214
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:15,440
heard of it quite yet

2215
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:18,400
but he had an experience where he saw

2216
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:19,520
like a submarine

2217
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:22,719
send out a little uh little vessel

2218
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:24,560
to new york city and pull out a

2219
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:26,239
briefcase and detonate a bomb he's been

2220
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:27,840
telling me that since i was 15 years old

2221
01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:29,760
he wrote it down

2222
01:22:33,669 --> 01:22:31,280
he didn't just recently come up with

2223
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:33,679
that he felt compelled to tell that

2224
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:35,440
because he feels like

2225
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:36,800
if he doesn't and then it actually

2226
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:38,960
happened he would be guilty you know

2227
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:40,560
just like joel the watchman in the bible

2228
01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:41,679
that's actually what the lady said

2229
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:42,719
you're like joel the watchman you have

2230
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,600
to tell your story

2231
01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:44,960
or blood will be on your hands if it

2232
01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:46,320
happens that's that's that's a cool

2233
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,199
little fact that

2234
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:49,760
um dad hasn't said yet so he told he he

2235
01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:51,360
said that just the other day

2236
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:54,080
and i got in contact with someone

2237
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:54,880
involved in

2238
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:58,159
some community somewhere on this planet

2239
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:00,159
as far as the term special is concerned

2240
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:02,320
and they said they got the same hit

2241
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:05,760
about new york city with remote viewing

2242
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:07,679
and i'll leave it at that and that's as

2243
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:09,600
clear as i can be i'm sorry

2244
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,000
now there is uh

2245
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:16,239
there's a religious aspect to this that

2246
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:17,520
is positive

2247
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:20,560
but then there is the possibility of

2248
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:20,960
this

2249
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:24,480
and the contact reaching out to negative

2250
01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:25,600
forces

2251
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:27,679
i don't want to use the word demonic but

2252
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:29,360
others will

2253
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:34,000
right yeah i mean i will yeah exactly

2254
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:41,830
let's put it this way you know there's

2255
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:42,880
light and there's dark there's hot and

2256
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:43,760
there's cold

2257
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:48,000
one of the fundamental uh

2258
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:49,520
one of the fundamental rules of this

2259
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:51,199
reality in my opinion is that there are

2260
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,880
always going to be polar opposites and

2261
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:54,239
it is naive to believe that there's only

2262
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:56,880
good or there's only bad

2263
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:00,639
with that being said i know for a fact

2264
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:36,470
out them they're like shadowy beings

2265
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:37,040
that

2266
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,800
latch themselves on your mind and your

2267
01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:40,880
soul they can bring in misery darkness

2268
01:24:43,990 --> 01:24:42,719
like possession type activity they're

2269
01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:44,000
very real

2270
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:45,520
and that's why my dad says don't ever

2271
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:47,199
bring a negativity don't ever bring in a

2272
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:49,600
negativity because the way that you are

2273
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:51,920
attracts what you experience

2274
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:54,239
you need to live your life that way yes

2275
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:54,960
yeah yeah

2276
01:25:02,070 --> 01:24:58,560
and uh your dad and i kind of

2277
01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:02,080
in a good way but we we went round and

2278
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:02,719
round

2279
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:04,800
uh last week in social media a lot of

2280
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:05,920
people uh read

2281
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:08,560
uh the post uh that your father did and

2282
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:09,760
my response back

2283
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:13,040
and and this ongoing dialogue

2284
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:16,159
um i am

2285
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:20,560
of the belief that 2021

2286
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:23,920
is going to be cool that's it we

2287
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:27,679
have to we have to start off the year

2288
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:30,880
with that mindset right right if you're

2289
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:32,960
gonna start off thinking negative

2290
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:34,719
well that's that's what you're going to

2291
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,239
attract and that's what's going to be a

2292
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:37,920
part of your life

2293
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:41,040
um and your dad has spoken about this

2294
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:49,110
i will say that i agree with you and

2295
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:50,960
your philosophy that

2296
01:25:54,629 --> 01:25:52,960
the way that you are attracts your

2297
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:54,639
experience your life this can be heaven

2298
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:55,840
or this could be hell

2299
01:26:00,149 --> 01:25:58,719
that's like that ancient kind of uh

2300
01:26:01,510 --> 01:26:00,159
grail tradition secret right the

2301
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:01,520
philosopher's stone is that

2302
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:03,440
you refined your soul from lead into

2303
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:04,880
gold and then you create your heaven or

2304
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:06,000
your hell i believe that and that's

2305
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:07,360
exactly what you just said in so many

2306
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:08,159
words

2307
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:10,320
now with that being said i also want to

2308
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:13,679
say that my father does not get dates

2309
01:26:19,030 --> 01:26:17,120
he feels compelled to share

2310
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:19,040
this vision because he's worried what if

2311
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:20,159
this is the year

2312
01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:21,920
he's waited all these years and what if

2313
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:23,440
he waited too long and he didn't have a

2314
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,280
chance to tell when it happened

2315
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:27,600
i believe that you could 100 right in

2316
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,280
this or you could be right and this

2317
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:31,120
could be a great year

2318
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:33,600
nothing has to happen but unfortunately

2319
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:36,880
i do err on the side of suspicion

2320
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:39,040
that these things my dad has seen can

2321
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:40,800
come true

2322
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:42,480
but he's also very clear on the fact

2323
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:44,000
that they don't have to happen he's not

2324
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:45,120
sharing them because he's saying that

2325
01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:46,480
they are going to happen he's sharing

2326
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:49,040
and saying be warned i said my peace

2327
01:26:52,149 --> 01:26:50,000
let's hope it doesn't happen

2328
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:52,159
so i i agree with both of you but i like

2329
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:53,600
your take better that we got to make it

2330
01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:54,880
positive we got to think positive

2331
01:26:57,990 --> 01:26:55,920
because that's what you attract

2332
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:58,000
if we all in this way i should say yeah

2333
01:27:03,110 --> 01:26:59,679
and uh

2334
01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:03,120
what's what's in the future for you when

2335
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:06,159
and i'm asking not in a broad sense but

2336
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:09,520
you've got a lot of uh uh

2337
01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:12,800
pressure uh you've got you've got

2338
01:27:18,790 --> 01:27:16,159
groups and individuals and agencies with

2339
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:18,800
uh eyes that are laser focused on you

2340
01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:20,000
and your family and

2341
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:21,520
the things that are going on what you

2342
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:23,360
need what's in your future with that how

2343
01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:31,350
my philosophy is full steam ahead um

2344
01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:34,000
i don't believe there should be secrets

2345
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:36,080
but the sad truth is that's not the way

2346
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,960
that this works

2347
01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:38,000
just like we talked about in the

2348
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:40,639
pre-show jimmy um

2349
01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:43,920
i had kind of been talked to to

2350
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:47,280
to not say some certain things i guess

2351
01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:48,560
like maybe i've said too much or

2352
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:50,960
whatever i resent that i'm 27 years old

2353
01:27:52,790 --> 01:27:52,239
i've never been in the military i've

2354
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:52,800
never

2355
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:54,400
signed any non-disclosure agreements or

2356
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:55,600
anything of that nature i should be able

2357
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:56,800
to say whatever the heck i want to say

2358
01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:57,199
but

2359
01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:58,480
the unfortunate reality is that this

2360
01:28:03,189 --> 01:28:00,719
present time it's not there yet

2361
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:03,199
um but my hope for the future is that

2362
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:04,400
it's full steam ahead and that

2363
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:05,360
everything

2364
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:09,199
think that that will happen

2365
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:10,400
in the next 10 years i think there's

2366
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:11,679
going to be no choice because this

2367
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:13,360
phenomenon will force it

2368
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:16,320
what do you think that we are on the

2369
01:28:20,629 --> 01:28:19,040
verge of disclosure and i know you think

2370
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:20,639
about this all the time

2371
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:24,400
you know how close are we

2372
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:27,600
i think we're very close my father when

2373
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:30,159
he was with the lady she told him

2374
01:28:35,110 --> 01:28:31,760
you know this is your bird you must tell

2375
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:35,120
it and when the red star regulus aligns

2376
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:38,400
with the head of the sphinx before dawn

2377
01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:41,199
in the constellation leo that we would

2378
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:42,880
awaken into a new knowledge

2379
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:45,360
she didn't give a date i'm very present

2380
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:46,800
and clear on telling people that there

2381
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:48,800
was no date given

2382
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,520
we're not like prophets trying to

2383
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:52,800
predict a date or anything it's just

2384
01:28:55,910 --> 01:28:54,080
something that he saw and he feels

2385
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:55,920
compelled to share there was no date but

2386
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,000
we gave that to dr halpovenmeyer

2387
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,239
he ran it through a simulation and the

2388
01:29:04,110 --> 01:29:02,560
date the date of that specific alignment

2389
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:04,120
is september 23rd

2390
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:08,080
2026. now if that's correct

2391
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:11,360
i believe that by now

2392
01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:14,560
and 2026 we will reach full disclosure i

2393
01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:16,000
really do think that

2394
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:19,120
wow five years so five years regulus and

2395
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:20,800
the constellation leo

2396
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:24,560
aligns with the sphinx before dawn

2397
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:28,480
before dawn yes wow

2398
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:31,440
so five years i think so i think we're

2399
01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:31,840
on a

2400
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:35,199
ticking clock a a backwards clock

2401
01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:36,880
counting down from now until then i

2402
01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:38,480
really think so and i think that

2403
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:39,440
everything

2404
01:29:46,550 --> 01:29:42,480
that is presently going on in this world

2405
01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:46,560
good or bad is one big drama written out

2406
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:48,560
on an archetypal level that's leading up

2407
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:49,920
to the finale

2408
01:29:53,270 --> 01:29:51,679
where we will be revealed the choi or

2409
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:53,280
the truth and we will get to choose what

2410
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:54,239
we believe

2411
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:55,840
when was the last time you spoke to jim

2412
01:30:00,070 --> 01:29:58,000
semivan

2413
01:30:01,189 --> 01:30:00,080
the last time i personally spoke to him

2414
01:30:02,790 --> 01:30:01,199
was august 7th because that was our

2415
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:02,800
birthday so we chatted a little bit

2416
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:05,280
okay well you know uh the the recent

2417
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:06,159
departure

2418
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:08,639
of louis lozando and chris mellon and

2419
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:09,440
and steve

2420
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:12,480
just yes uh from ttsa

2421
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:15,280
um i'm wondering what the future is you

2422
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:15,600
know

2423
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:19,280
it's uh just jim and tom

2424
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:23,440
and carrie i guess uh uh she counts but

2425
01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:24,960
uh what do you think the future is for

2426
01:30:28,229 --> 01:30:26,800
ttsa

2427
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:28,239
i'll tell you what i think and i'm gonna

2428
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:29,840
be brutally honest but

2429
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:33,520
remain respectful um

2430
01:30:36,950 --> 01:30:35,440
i don't think any of these mega

2431
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:36,960
corporations

2432
01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:41,360
with investment interest and ties to

2433
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:43,040
classified documents really have full

2434
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:46,000
reign to say what should be said

2435
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:49,199
i think that everybody is so

2436
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:53,040
focused on these individuals within the

2437
01:30:59,189 --> 01:30:55,679
government and within entertainment

2438
01:31:02,629 --> 01:30:59,199
um coming out and saying their piece

2439
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:02,639
at a very slow pace and they're not

2440
01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:04,239
listening to experiencers who have

2441
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:05,600
nothing to gain and they're just telling

2442
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:07,040
their story because they feel compelled

2443
01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:08,719
there's a lot of experiencers out there

2444
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:10,320
who have seen things just like we have

2445
01:31:12,390 --> 01:31:11,760
and nobody will listen but they'll

2446
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:12,400
listen to

2447
01:31:16,149 --> 01:31:14,639
the team of superstars with clearances

2448
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:16,159
even though they don't really give you a

2449
01:31:18,790 --> 01:31:17,120
whole lot

2450
01:31:20,709 --> 01:31:18,800
now i say respectful because i'm not

2451
01:31:22,390 --> 01:31:20,719
knocking ttsa i'm just saying people

2452
01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:22,400
should be very careful of who they place

2453
01:31:27,110 --> 01:31:24,320
their trust into

2454
01:31:27,830 --> 01:31:27,120
no that's exactly it and i've seen

2455
01:31:33,350 --> 01:31:27,840
things

2456
01:31:36,629 --> 01:31:33,360
too many private individuals out there

2457
01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:36,639
that have a lot to say and it's a lot of

2458
01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:37,360
evidence

2459
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:40,719
and that are not being listened to

2460
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:44,080
including myself right and uh you can't

2461
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:46,080
put all of your eggs in one basket

2462
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:48,880
you you just can't do that that's right

2463
01:31:54,790 --> 01:31:52,480
semi-van are you listening to me

2464
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:54,800
hey ryan now uh yeah go ahead go ahead

2465
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:55,840
go ahead

2466
01:31:59,030 --> 01:31:57,360
i was just gonna say if semi-van is

2467
01:32:02,229 --> 01:31:59,040
listening i hope he received all the

2468
01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:02,239
compliments and he's not mad at me

2469
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:05,280
ryan what an incredible conversation

2470
01:32:09,430 --> 01:32:08,159
uh my best to you and your fiance uh i

2471
01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:09,440
hope you guys uh

2472
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:12,320
get everything together um i'm i've just

2473
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:14,400
gotten over covered i'm getting over

2474
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:15,280
covid

2475
01:32:20,629 --> 01:32:18,480
uh and you guys went through it too um

2476
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:20,639
are you guys on the other side are you

2477
01:32:23,669 --> 01:32:22,000
guys fine

2478
01:32:25,189 --> 01:32:23,679
oh yeah we came down with covid in

2479
01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:25,199
november and we we

2480
01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:26,960
got out of it sometime late november so

2481
01:32:30,390 --> 01:32:28,639
we're we're in the clear

2482
01:32:31,830 --> 01:32:30,400
we're good to go and thanks for asking

2483
01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:31,840
yeah it was

2484
01:32:36,149 --> 01:32:35,520
just brutal brutal oh man it's just no

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joke

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thank you so much ryan i look forward to

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the next time that you are on the show

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with this

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my again my best to you and the family

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and let's have an amazing 21 together my

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friend thank you so much

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thank you jimmy incredible conversation

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and we just want paul to poll

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uh thank you ryan again you can follow

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ryan on twitter at ryanbledso

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it is up in the twitter feed and you can

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follow me on twitter at j church radio i

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do want to remind everybody

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uh tomorrow night bob mcguire is here

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and wednesday night is isaac arthur

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thursday night of course is fader night

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with open lines all night long with that

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i'm going to get out of here what a

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great way to start the year thank you so

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much ryan

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black of the game changer network i'm

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your host jimmy church

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tomorrow night right here bob mcguire

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until then i want everybody to be safe

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